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Danika Princip
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Posted - 2014.01.12 19:51:00 -
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Pay to win is bad. Go Away. |
Danika Princip
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Posted - 2014.01.12 19:59:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Pay to win is bad. Go Away. Don't we have that now when richer players can bling their ships?
Which has nothing whatsoever to do with richer players being able to buy skillpoints. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:04:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Dr Sraggles wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Pay to win is bad. Go Away. Don't we have that now when richer players can bling their ships? Which has nothing whatsoever to do with richer players being able to buy skillpoints. Skill Points = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc Bling = DPS, Cap Life, Tank etc Is that not correct?
No, not at all. Buying an officer mod doesn't suddenly allow you to fly amarr battleships when you had no ammar skills at all five minutes ago... |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:11:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:
Training Amarr BS 1 takes minutes, then bling can make a huge difference in performance. Using one Plex to get Amarr BS 5 is the end of the world?
From nothing? Yes. It completely removes consequences for choices made during training. It penalises new players further. It destroys the character market, makes attributes meaningless, kills the implant market, removes consequences for not updating your clone... |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:23:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Mag's wrote:Dr Sraggles wrote:Danika Princip wrote:
No, not at all. Buying an officer mod doesn't suddenly allow you to fly amarr battleships when you had no ammar skills at all five minutes ago...
Training Amarr BS 1 takes minutes, then bling can make a huge difference in performance. Using one Plex to get Amarr BS 5 is the end of the world? It's not the end of the world if you have to train for it, like everyone else then. Your idea is nothing new and doesn't solve any problems. (No, you wanting SP NOW isn't a problem) The problem it solves is allowing new players to accelerate their training.
Which it does not do, it allows older, richer players to accelerate thier own training far, far more. Classic Malcanis law. |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:29:00 -
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How does it help a new player to 'catch up' if older players are suddenly gaining millions of extra SP? |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:33:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Danika Princip wrote:How does it help a new player to 'catch up' if older players are suddenly gaining millions of extra SP? Because older players already have complete frig/dessie skills. Newer players could buy a month or two and no longer be fodder.
But a new player in a frigate with complete frigate skills is STILL fodder. They're still flying a frigate, and they don't know the game mechanics... |
Danika Princip
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:39:00 -
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Dr Sraggles wrote:Mag's wrote:Dr Sraggles wrote:
Who cares if an old toon suddenly has Carrier 5?
Would not the game benefit from more players with Frigate 5?
Everyone with balance in mind cares. The game benefits from players with longevity in mind, not want it now get board 20 minutes later. Eve is not WoW in space and it's skill system is nothing like it either. It is one of the best systems I've come across and allows new players to compete very early on. Ok, so put a limit on how many SP you can buy (say, 3 months). This would let newer players polish a few things and close the gap. Older toons, would gain relatively little (ie a few level 5 skills).
Maintain the gap maybe, they're certainly not closing it. Who do you think can stump up the ISK for a PLEX faster, me with my 80 million SP, or a newbie with five million? |
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